FEDCLOUD minutes ================ 24 June 2014 Participants ------------ - Boris Parak - David Wallom - Michel Drescher - Andre Gemuend - Arad - Carlos - David Blundell - Diego Scardaci - Dobromir Georgiev - Emir Imamagic - Enol Fernandez - Jan Meizner - Kostas Koumantaros - Luis Alvez - Malgorzata Krakowian - Marios Chatziangelou - Peter Solagna - Piotr Kasprzak - Stuart Pullinger - Viet Tran Apologies --------- - Daniele Lezzi - Feyza Eryol - Owen Synge - Stefano Nicotri - Björn Hagemeier Administrative ============== Welcome new members ------------------- -no new members Minutes of last meeting ----------------------- - Minutes accepted as available at https://indico.egi.eu/indico/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=2226 - ACTION Michel: Organise teleconference on Security STATUS REPORTS ============== VM Management ------------- - EC2 backend in development -- Some basic operations are working -- David urges that documentation for EC2/vmWare integration needs to be spot on! Data Management --------------- - Skipped Accounting ---------- - VO information starts to get in - CERN has some issues with ceilometer integration for CMS VO -- see http://accounting-devel.egi.eu/cloud.php?query=vm_num&startYear=2013&startMonth=7&endYear=2014&endMonth=6&yrange=VO&xrange=SITE - EGI broker system was partially up causing some overload on single brokers -- But back on again Monitoring ---------- - vmcaster probe deployed and integrated in cloudmon.egi.eu service -- which service type in GOCDB to use? - vmcatcher probe missing, needs development -- ACTION OWEN to draft the probe’s design plan - ACTION EMIR to request proper service types for vmcaster and vmcatcher probes onces the designs are complete - probe monitoring PERUN - not much progress - CDMI probe - Emir requests proper CDMI endpoints using HTTP “www-authenticate” header to test the probe - ACTION EMIR & KOSTAS to get the CDMI probe running with ~okeanos - ACTION EMIR to expand probe coverage on other providers once working with ~okeanos Information Discovery --------------------- - Discussions with OGF on GLUE2 extensions ongoing - Another group also uses GLUE2 to describe Cloud resources - Reconciliation of these approaches needs - ACTION PETER to supply names of the other group in OGF to leverage synergies - Kostas raises the issue that it is currently not clear how the Information Discovery is or should be used -- The issue raised is that the current Cloud Information System should not replicate the architecture and situation of the current Grid Information system -- D Wallom agrees that the contents should be user driven -- M Drescher raises the question whether such a system is scalable? Discussion continues on the pros and cons on publishing *all* public VM entries, the structure and searchability of such data. What is the scope and potential overlap with data published in AppDB? - Particular use cases fo data in information systems need meticulous documentation on use, content and structure. - ACTION Information Discovery WG to determine the use cases for information being included in the BDII published data. Federated AAI ------------- skipped VM Image Management ------------------- - VO notification system for VO image lists for endorsement is currently being pushed to produciton. -- Documentation: https://wiki.appdb.egi.eu/main:guides:notify_virtual_organization_representatives SLAs and Business models ------------------------ - Backing use case is EGI’s Pay for Use Task Force - Simple SLA template available for scope and services to be provided - includes exceptions such as maintenance - target responce and incident handling - limitations, demarcation etc - Malgorzata: Through FitSM there is already a SLA template available - ACTION David & Malgorzata to harmonise FitSM template with is template Certification progress ---------------------- - no news; original scope was to track site certification for the launch - will be removed from standing agenda and handed over to operations Operational Status and Issues ----------------------------- - A lot of FedCloud documentation is available, and is in scope of EGI site admin documentation. - Malgorzata requests FedCloud team to collate a specific set of documentation links for inclusions - VO certification procedure integration -- https://wiki.egi.eu/wiki/PROC14 -- ACTION PAUL MILLAR (fed. AAI) to work with Malgorzata to check on the authorisation aspect of PROC14 - NGI services in GOCDB - this is much more of a Grid operations model - FedCloud is much more of a flat architecture - ACTION on Scenario leaders to support Malgorzata in linking relevant Cloud documentation in EGI Admin documentation set. -- David Wallom urges to keep the documentation structure designed around existing Cloud Management Frameworks and how to integrate them. User Community News ------------------- - Use case “Next Generation Gene Sequencing” now supported by CESNET -- New VO created for this purpose -- Is documented in the Wiki as “RNA sequencing” - Use case “???” (Diego please fill -n) -- Initial VMs created, now being integrated with cloud-init - FTK in Dortmund -- Some trouble in configuring their environment CHAT LOG ======== Stuart Pullinger (STFC/APEL): http://accounting-devel.egi.eu/cloud.php?query=vm_num&startYear=2013&startMonth=7&endYear=2014&endMonth=6&yrange=VO&xrange=SITE kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): Did you open a ticket on the broker guys ? kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): i would suggest vmcaster-publisher... as this is what this specific endpoit does Stuart Pullinger (STFC/APEL): For me too kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): same here Michel Drescher: agree, Emir drops frequently in audio for me Emir Imamagic: can you hear me now? Emir Imamagic: I hate adobe Emir Imamagic: ok Emir Imamagic: so lets remove the old marketplace Emir Imamagic: ah Emir Imamagic: this is easier Emir Imamagic: and we should put vmcaster.appdb.egi.eu Emir Imamagic: there for the time being Emir Imamagic: just to have it in GOCDB Emir Imamagic: and once owen provides his probes Emir Imamagic: we'll see if new service type is needed or not Emir Imamagic: I am Emir Imamagic: ok Emir Imamagic: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Emir Imamagic: I hate this Emir Imamagic: ok Emir Imamagic: I'll just type things here Emir Imamagic: to make a long story short Emir Imamagic: kostas replied to my request kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): faster faster Emir Imamagic: and I will try to make the probe work with their endpoint Emir Imamagic: problem is that without www-auth I don't know Emir Imamagic: which keystone to contact Emir Imamagic: but Emir Imamagic: lets first see the probe working on at least one site Emir Imamagic: and then others can patch Emir Imamagic: themselves Michel Drescher: agreed Emir Imamagic: ok, that's it from my side Emir Imamagic: running away now, have fun guys DW: bye kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): perhaps this information could be published for examples with a pull model throught a message broker topic or something kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): and perhaps we should start thinking about PIDs kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): as the location where a VM is hosted may change through time Marios Chatziangelou (AppDB/IASA): https://appdb.egi.eu/store/vm/image/f2337fda-5540-42c8-810b-a69bfa311c36:37/ Marios Chatziangelou (AppDB/IASA): https://appdb.egi.eu/store/vm/image/f2337fda-5540-42c8-810b-a69bfa311c36:37/xml Marios Chatziangelou (AppDB/IASA): https://appdb.egi.eu/store/vm/image/f2337fda-5540-42c8-810b-a69bfa311c36:37/json Marios Chatziangelou (AppDB/IASA): https://appdb.egi.eu/store/vappliance/chain.reds.generic.vm Marios Chatziangelou (AppDB/IASA): https://wiki.appdb.egi.eu/main:guides:notify_virtual_organization_representatives kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): M: Was the version you are suggesting approuved by OMB ? Malgorzata Krakowian (EGI.eu): no Malgorzata Krakowian (EGI.eu): template was not yet circulated to OMB, it was used to prodce EGI.eu OLAs Malgorzata Krakowian (EGI.eu): https://wiki.egi.eu/wiki/User_Documentation Malgorzata Krakowian (EGI.eu): https://wiki.egi.eu/wiki/Administrator_Documentation Malgorzata Krakowian (EGI.eu): https://wiki.egi.eu/wiki/PROC14 Diego Scardaci: for PROC14 I can propose an update to take in account the fedcloud stuff Malgorzata Krakowian (EGI.eu): https://wiki.egi.eu/wiki/NGI_services_in_GOCDB Luís Alves: can anyone please remind me the fedcloud devel e-mail list address? Or the right list to ask technical help. If I recall correctly there are diferent lists now (general discussion/technical disc.) kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): https://wiki.egi.eu/wiki/Fedcloud-tf:Users Diego Scardaci: yes, this is the entry point Diego Scardaci: thanks Kostas kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): https://wiki.egi.eu/wiki/Fedcloud-tf:ResourceProviders Luís Alves: ok, thanks kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): we have 0800-Michel for this tasks kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): we need to keeep it simple (stupid) Kiss kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): Diego kostas Koumantaros (GRNET): or just call 0800-Michel Stuart Pullinger (STFC/APEL): Sorry I have to go. Stuart Pullinger (STFC/APEL): Bye DW: ok DW: bye Boris Parák: bye Enol Fernandez: I have to go too, bye Piotr Kasprzak (GWDG): Bye!