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Attendees: 14 NGIs
Peter Solagna (EGI)
Vincenzo Spinoso (EGI)
Alessandro Paolini (EGI)
Andrej Zemla (NGI_PL)
Emir Imamagic
George Ryall (STFC-GOCDB)
Ionut Vasile (NGO_RO)
Jan Astalos (NGI_SK)
Jerome Pansanel (NGI_FRANCE)
Joao Pina (NGI_IBERGRID)
Ron Trompert
Sven Gabriel
Ulf Tigersteldt
Bruce Becker (AfricaArabia)
Stephane Gerard (BEgrid)
Themis Zamani (GRNET)
Nicolai ILIUHA (RENAM)
List of new actions:
ACTION (EGI Operations): open tickets to NGIs/sites to get usage statistics of WMS
ACTION (EGI Operations): Contact the sites in Emir's list informing them about the tests coming from the developing nagios instance
ACTION (EGI Operations): propose some sites for testing the webdav probe
====== Introduction ===============
Speaker: Peter Solagna (EGI.eu)
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storage accounting testing is proceeding well, other sites joined the testing
new scope tag for FedCloud sites, proposed modification to the certification procedure for properly flagging the sites and their services
--> no objections, modification approved
DNS automatic configuration for VMs in FedCloud
====== Feedback from the EGI CSRITs F2F meeting =====
Speaker: Dr. Sven Gabriel (NIKHEF)
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security trainings: defensive, offensive, forensics, what if scenario.
FedCloud SSC, SSC future developments
Peter: a malicious user can scan the network for checking vulnerabilities. How to prevent it? why don't we self-scan our FedCloud for vulnerabilities?
Sven: there is a tool that check for malicious activities starting from a sites
we don't do this scan currently, we only inform the sites about the vulnerabilities
discussion on incidents involving orchestration and contextualisation
Peter: solve the problem with reaching only 5 sites. Sven and Vincenzo to report about problems encountered.
10:30 - 10:45 WMS end of life 15'
Speaker: Alessandro Paolini (EGI.eu)
Jerome: made a lot of training for users; without a properly training, its not easy the migration to DIRAC, maybe 6 months is not doable
we need more information before fixing a precise timeline
ACTION (EGI Operations): open tickets to NGIs/sites to get usage statistics of WMS
-- from the chat --
Bruce Becker: Have we spoken to OSG about their glide-in wms or similar ?
Bruce Becker: don't get me wrong, i'm happy to decomission the WMS, but we need that functionality
Bruce Becker: I don't think we have anyone using the WMS APIs or endpoints explicitly.
Ionut Vasile (NGI_RO): The WMS decommisioning does not affect the NGI operations?
Alessandro Paolini (EGI Foundation): yes, we spoke with glieinn-WMS developers, but a the end DIRAC was the better solution for the current activities of VOs
Bruce Becker: ok.
Bruce Becker: Where can we carry on this discussion in the longer term ?
Bruce Becker: (off topic - I tried forum.egi.eu this morning and it gave me a dns error)
Bruce Becker: As long as we have clear alternatives I think we can communicate from the NGI down to the user communities (at least the small regional ones)
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Bruce: some communities need some functionalities included in the WMS; consider also these needs.
Peter: we are not imposing dirac to anybody, we are proposing a solution replacing the WMS.
DIRAC to be proposed as a default solution to current WMS users, but other solutions coming from other communities, are possible
--- from the chat ----
Bruce Becker: ya, like we didn't impose the WMS. it's just a default
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Peter: once we have data from NGIs, we could schedule a dedicated meeting with NGIs and VOs for discussing how to go on.
Emir: which middleware DIRAC support?
CREAM, ARC-CE, Condor, cloud
===== Monitoring update ===========
Speaker: Mr. Emir Imamagic (SRCE)
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Uncertified sites monitoring: there is a dedicated nagios instance
the NGI/sites can go directly on this server to see the tests or submitting new ones
ARGO dev instance: runnig constantly for testing new probes
few sites selected for receiving these tests
ACTION (EGI Operations): Contact the sites in Emir's list informing them about the tests coming from the developing nagios instance
tested successfully OneData, new probe for dcache version deccomission
testing new probes for CREAM-CE, OCCI tests, Swift, WebDAV (waiting for volunteer)
ACTION (EGI Operations): propose some sites for testing the webdav probe
New FedCloud report based on the new scope tag, testing on dev instance
no probes for Keystone api version 3, it is not officially supported yet
Vincenzo: what about the probe for comparing the virtual images list?
Emir: no news for the moment
=====IPv6 update and UMD/CMD status ======
Speaker: Vincenzo Spinoso (INFN)
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can we test if a site is ready for supporting dual stack?
the monitoring instance is not dual stack, UI it is
==== IOTA CAs in EGI =======
Speaker: Peter Solagna (EGI.eu)
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Peter: asked Vincenzo and Joao to check that all these information are included in the CAs release notes
===== the complete chat ========
Peter Solagna: (2/23/2017 10:03) https://indico.egi.eu/indico/event/3234/
Ulf Tigerstedt: (10:07) could these meetings please move to use technology that does not use flash? Even the adobe connect app for android is currently broken and can't be installed
Ulf Tigerstedt: (10:07) Flash died two years ago
Joao Pina (NGI_IBERGRID): (10:11) morning sorry for being late
Bruce Becker: (10:19) hidyho, sorry i'm late
Joao Pina (NGI_IBERGRID): (10:53) yes
sveng: (10:53) afk for a bit
Bruce Becker: (10:58) We didn't get a ticket regarding this...
Bruce Becker: (10:58) (or if we did, I missed it :( )
Peter Solagna: (10:59) No tickets were submitted yet
Peter Solagna: (10:59) We contacted a subset of VOs in the past
Bruce Becker: (10:59) ah ok
Joao Pina (NGI_IBERGRID): (11:00) no same here
Bruce Becker: (11:00) Have we spoken to OSG about their glide-in wms or similar ?
Bruce Becker: (11:01) don't get me wrong, i'm happy to decomission the WMS, but we need that functionality
Bruce Becker: (11:01) I don't think we have anyone using the WMS APIs or endpoints explicitly.
Ionut Vasile (NGI_RO): (11:01) The WMS decommisioning does not affect the NGI operations?
Alessandro Paolini (EGI Foundation): (11:01) yes, we spoke with glieinn-WMS developers, but a the end DIRAC was the better solution for the current activities of VOs
Bruce Becker: (11:02) ok.
Bruce Becker: (11:02) Where can we carry on this discussion in the longer term ?
Bruce Becker: (11:03) (off topic - I tried forum.egi.eu this morning and it gave me a dns error)
Bruce Becker: (11:05) As long as we have clear alternatives I think we can communicate from the NGI down to the user communities (at least the small regional ones)
Bruce Becker: (11:07) ya, like we didn't impose the WMS. it's just a default
Bruce Becker: (11:09) we will be sending our users to discourse.sci-gaia.eu (which will be discourse.africa-grid.org after June)
Ionut Vasile (NGI_RO): (11:10) gLite, at least
Jerome Pansanel (NGI_FR): (11:11) Condor and ARC CE also
Emir Imamagic: (11:11) Globus GRAM?
Joao Pina (NGI_IBERGRID): (11:12) I have heard gram will be out of support from globus
Joao Pina (NGI_IBERGRID): (11:12) still need official confirmation
Joao Pina (NGI_IBERGRID): (11:18) webdav required by WLCG
Ulf Tigerstedt: (11:39) dcache works fine with ipv6 since 2.10 at least
Alessandro Paolini (EGI Foundation): (11:41) https://wiki.egi.eu/wiki/Preview_Repository
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